*Koprivnica
is a town in Croatia, formerly known as Kaproncza (Hungarian) and
Kopreinitz (German)
My SCHREINER descendancy chart lists an Armin SCHREINER married to Roza SCHREINER, daughter of Moritz SCHREINER and Babette/Betti nee POLLAK. Of course, the question is whether they are related and this is an instance of cousins marrying. On the same tree is Roza's brother Edo married to Berta WEISS.
According to a Page of Testimony submitted in 1974 for Edo MIKLOS by a man in Los Angeles, Edo's original name was SCHREINER. The maiden name of his wife, Berta WEISS, is also given as SCHREINER. The submitter also indicated that Berta and Edo were 2nd cousins. So not only do we have an instance of cousins marrying, we also have an instance of a brother and sister marrying a brother and sister!
In researching the Koprivnica vital records and utilizing what is known from various other sources, it is possible to construct the following family tree:
1) Julius SCHREINER (year of birth unknown) married first wife Julie GOLDSCHMID (year of birth unknown) in 1865. Julie died in 1872.
2) Adolf SCHREINER (1867-1869)
2) Kati SCHREINER (1869-?)
2) Israel SCHREINER (1871-1871; lived 2 months)
1) Julius SCHREINER (year of birth unknown) married second wife Hani LOFFLER (year of birth unknown) around 1873.
2) Armin (1874-1942) married Roza SCHREINER in 1900 in Körmend. They lived in Agram and Zagreb, Yugoslavia. Armin was a well-known industrialist.
3) Ferdinand SCHREINER (1901-1942) married Stefania Unknown.
4) Helga SCHREINER (1936-1943)
3) Hadumi SCHREINER (1908-1942)
3) Vladimir SCHREINER (1909-1942)
3) Otto SCHREINER (1912-1941) married Erzsi UNKNOWN
3) Mirjam SCHREINER
3) Leo SCHREINER aka Arie ARONI (1913-1997)
4) living
5) living
5) living
5) living
3) Mira SCHREINER (1915-1941)
2) Leopold SCHREINER (1877-1883). Died of diptheria.
2) Bertha SCHREINER (1878, Zagreb -1942, Zagreb), married first husband unknown WEISS in ? During the last decade of the 19th century she immigrated to the U.S.
3) Frederick WEISS/WHITE (1900, New York City - 1959, Zagreb). He studied in Vienna and worked there as a journalist, and was arrested after the Anschluss. Due to his American citizenship, he was released and returned to the United States, where he settled in Chicago and worked for the American Jewish Committee. At the end of the war he returned to Austria and became involved in efforts to organize relief efforts for the surviving Jews of Europe. Though he did not speak Serbo-Croatian, he was appointed the Joint Distribution Committee representative in Yugoslavia. For his efforts, he was awarded the Decoration of the Yugoslav Flag by Josip Broz Tito in 1950.
3) Franz/Frank WEISS/WHITE
2) Bertha SCHREINER (1878-1942), married second husband Edo MIKLOS (SCHREINER) in ?
2) Rosa SCHREINER (1880-1883)
2) Marie Vallerie, aka Valerija/Wally SCHREINER (1883-1943), married Bela REICH (1869-1942). According to a Page of Testimony submitted by her son Evo/Ivo/Hugo, Valerija perished in Ravensbruck and Bela in Auschwitz.
3) Evo/Ivo/Hugo REICH married Liliza UNKNOWN
4) living
2) Elsa SCHREINER (1885-?)
If Julius was a son of Aron SCHREINER, then Edo, Bertha, Armin and Roza would be first cousins, not second cousins. Unfortunately, none of the records in Koprivnica indicate Julius' date of birth or his parents. So for the time being, the exact relationship remains unknown.
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My SCHREINER descendancy chart lists an Armin SCHREINER married to Roza SCHREINER, daughter of Moritz SCHREINER and Babette/Betti nee POLLAK. Of course, the question is whether they are related and this is an instance of cousins marrying. On the same tree is Roza's brother Edo married to Berta WEISS.
According to a Page of Testimony submitted in 1974 for Edo MIKLOS by a man in Los Angeles, Edo's original name was SCHREINER. The maiden name of his wife, Berta WEISS, is also given as SCHREINER. The submitter also indicated that Berta and Edo were 2nd cousins. So not only do we have an instance of cousins marrying, we also have an instance of a brother and sister marrying a brother and sister!
In researching the Koprivnica vital records and utilizing what is known from various other sources, it is possible to construct the following family tree:
1) Julius SCHREINER (year of birth unknown) married first wife Julie GOLDSCHMID (year of birth unknown) in 1865. Julie died in 1872.
2) Adolf SCHREINER (1867-1869)
2) Kati SCHREINER (1869-?)
2) Israel SCHREINER (1871-1871; lived 2 months)
1) Julius SCHREINER (year of birth unknown) married second wife Hani LOFFLER (year of birth unknown) around 1873.
2) Armin (1874-1942) married Roza SCHREINER in 1900 in Körmend. They lived in Agram and Zagreb, Yugoslavia. Armin was a well-known industrialist.
3) Ferdinand SCHREINER (1901-1942) married Stefania Unknown.
4) Helga SCHREINER (1936-1943)
3) Hadumi SCHREINER (1908-1942)
3) Vladimir SCHREINER (1909-1942)
3) Otto SCHREINER (1912-1941) married Erzsi UNKNOWN
3) Mirjam SCHREINER
3) Leo SCHREINER aka Arie ARONI (1913-1997)
4) living
5) living
5) living
5) living
3) Mira SCHREINER (1915-1941)
2) Leopold SCHREINER (1877-1883). Died of diptheria.
2) Bertha SCHREINER (1878, Zagreb -1942, Zagreb), married first husband unknown WEISS in ? During the last decade of the 19th century she immigrated to the U.S.
3) Frederick WEISS/WHITE (1900, New York City - 1959, Zagreb). He studied in Vienna and worked there as a journalist, and was arrested after the Anschluss. Due to his American citizenship, he was released and returned to the United States, where he settled in Chicago and worked for the American Jewish Committee. At the end of the war he returned to Austria and became involved in efforts to organize relief efforts for the surviving Jews of Europe. Though he did not speak Serbo-Croatian, he was appointed the Joint Distribution Committee representative in Yugoslavia. For his efforts, he was awarded the Decoration of the Yugoslav Flag by Josip Broz Tito in 1950.
Frederick
White
3) Franz/Frank WEISS/WHITE
2) Bertha SCHREINER (1878-1942), married second husband Edo MIKLOS (SCHREINER) in ?
2) Rosa SCHREINER (1880-1883)
2) Marie Vallerie, aka Valerija/Wally SCHREINER (1883-1943), married Bela REICH (1869-1942). According to a Page of Testimony submitted by her son Evo/Ivo/Hugo, Valerija perished in Ravensbruck and Bela in Auschwitz.
3) Evo/Ivo/Hugo REICH married Liliza UNKNOWN
4) living
2) Elsa SCHREINER (1885-?)
If Julius was a son of Aron SCHREINER, then Edo, Bertha, Armin and Roza would be first cousins, not second cousins. Unfortunately, none of the records in Koprivnica indicate Julius' date of birth or his parents. So for the time being, the exact relationship remains unknown.
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